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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.mawbooks.com/2009/06/11/talking-library-fines-somebody-please-make-me-feel-better/#comment-66890</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get it. I am 14 and I rarely check my email so I har
dly notice the notices. So after about 3 months of renewing and some fines I&#039;ve racked up a grand total of $78!! So returning books tomoro and shreding my card the next.</description>
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dly notice the notices. So after about 3 months of renewing and some fines I&#8217;ve racked up a grand total of $78!! So returning books tomoro and shreding my card the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fines of $1/day for media is pretty standard. We charge 25¢/day for books. Even with the fines I&#039;ve accumulated for media, it&#039;s definitely worth it! Yeah, we even charge our own library employees. :( 

We cap at $10 for books and $30 for media and reserves. Had to increase it recently due to the difficulty we&#039;ve had getting that stuff back. Students really hate it when they can&#039;t get their mitts on that reserve or dvd they need for class.

Anyone can renew once online. Faculty and staff don&#039;t get unlimited renewals (mentioned above). Yikes! 

We belong to a terrific ILS service called Link+. It&#039;s really efficient. We always encourage patrons to request through Link+ rather than place a hold (or do both). Generally, they get the book quicker through Link+.

Oh and someone mentioned taking comfort in the fact that the fine money went to the library. This isn&#039;t the case on our university campus. Fine money goes to the campus! Not sure if that&#039;s the case for a lot of academic libraries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fines of $1/day for media is pretty standard. We charge 25¢/day for books. Even with the fines I&#8217;ve accumulated for media, it&#8217;s definitely worth it! Yeah, we even charge our own library employees. <img src='http://blog.mawbooks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>We cap at $10 for books and $30 for media and reserves. Had to increase it recently due to the difficulty we&#8217;ve had getting that stuff back. Students really hate it when they can&#8217;t get their mitts on that reserve or dvd they need for class.</p>
<p>Anyone can renew once online. Faculty and staff don&#8217;t get unlimited renewals (mentioned above). Yikes! </p>
<p>We belong to a terrific ILS service called Link+. It&#8217;s really efficient. We always encourage patrons to request through Link+ rather than place a hold (or do both). Generally, they get the book quicker through Link+.</p>
<p>Oh and someone mentioned taking comfort in the fact that the fine money went to the library. This isn&#8217;t the case on our university campus. Fine money goes to the campus! Not sure if that&#8217;s the case for a lot of academic libraries.</p>
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		<title>By: Praveen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My library caps fines at a max of $10.00 per account, and it can be paid &quot;whenever&quot;. Even if you have $50+ in fines all you have to pay is $10. That is real nice of our library system! We can also renew books up to 10x unless they are requested by someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My library caps fines at a max of $10.00 per account, and it can be paid &#8220;whenever&#8221;. Even if you have $50+ in fines all you have to pay is $10. That is real nice of our library system! We can also renew books up to 10x unless they are requested by someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreadful Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dreadful Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My library is very generous with the number of items you can have out (50) and renewals (50) and they just upped the number of holds you can place at one time (10). I&#039;m always somewhere at the upper end of maxing out my library privileges: right now, 50 books out, two of the oldest materials have been renewed 40ish times, 3 books in the hold queue. This may seem crazy to some (Mr. Penny, for one) but I figure there&#039;s no harm, no foul in keeping materials out for a long time as long as no one else places a hold for it. The books I&#039;ve had out for the longest are out-of-print reference-type materials I&#039;ve been using for a blog project. I could swear to you these sat dusty in the lower decks of our library since the &#039;70s, so I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s missing them even if I&#039;ve had them for long past a year.

Since I have so much out, I&#039;m very careful about fines. My unofficial system is that I renew all items a week before their due date and whatever comes up with a hold on it that I can&#039;t renew I read and return in that week. So some weeks I&#039;m scrambling to get everything read and will purposefully incur a few fines just to finish them and other weeks nothing&#039;s on hold and I can read freely from the pile. Our loan period is a generous three weeks, so I don&#039;t have to scramble too often, and I let fines collect at $.25 a day until they get to the $5-6 dollar mark. Honestly, fines don&#039;t really bother me much either. I&#039;m with the folks who are happy to pay something for this awesome public good. 

Because there&#039;s a different loan period and fine structure ($1.00 a day) for DVDs, they don&#039;t really fit into my renewal system, so I very rarely borrow them from the library (and we have Netflix anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My library is very generous with the number of items you can have out (50) and renewals (50) and they just upped the number of holds you can place at one time (10). I&#8217;m always somewhere at the upper end of maxing out my library privileges: right now, 50 books out, two of the oldest materials have been renewed 40ish times, 3 books in the hold queue. This may seem crazy to some (Mr. Penny, for one) but I figure there&#8217;s no harm, no foul in keeping materials out for a long time as long as no one else places a hold for it. The books I&#8217;ve had out for the longest are out-of-print reference-type materials I&#8217;ve been using for a blog project. I could swear to you these sat dusty in the lower decks of our library since the &#8217;70s, so I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s missing them even if I&#8217;ve had them for long past a year.</p>
<p>Since I have so much out, I&#8217;m very careful about fines. My unofficial system is that I renew all items a week before their due date and whatever comes up with a hold on it that I can&#8217;t renew I read and return in that week. So some weeks I&#8217;m scrambling to get everything read and will purposefully incur a few fines just to finish them and other weeks nothing&#8217;s on hold and I can read freely from the pile. Our loan period is a generous three weeks, so I don&#8217;t have to scramble too often, and I let fines collect at $.25 a day until they get to the $5-6 dollar mark. Honestly, fines don&#8217;t really bother me much either. I&#8217;m with the folks who are happy to pay something for this awesome public good. </p>
<p>Because there&#8217;s a different loan period and fine structure ($1.00 a day) for DVDs, they don&#8217;t really fit into my renewal system, so I very rarely borrow them from the library (and we have Netflix anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my favorite benefit at work is the fact that I&#039;m exempt from library fines! (Although it makes it hard at my local library system, which isn&#039;t the one I work at. What do you mean I have to return stuff on time?!)

We charge .05/day for kid books, .10 for adult $1 for movies. Kids are capped at $5, adults at $10, movies at purchase price. 

You can only renew stuff twice if there isn&#039;t a hold. Honestly, I&#039;m ok with this. After working at an academic library where the staff had unlimited renewals? Many, many, many members of staff had books that had been checked out for decades. They&#039;d have the library order a book that they wanted to own, check it out as soon as it came in and keep renewing it until they retired. 

Also, a helpful library hint-- if you can&#039;t renew because of a hold, but there are several open copies? Wait a day. Most libraries pull hold books every morning before opening. If you wait a day or two, there&#039;s a good chance the book will have been pulled and trapped for the hold, so then you can renew. If you can&#039;t wait, call the reference desk of a branch with an open copy and explain the situation. They won&#039;t override the hold, they&#039;ll just get their copy and trap the hold, so then you can renew, that way everyone gets what they want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my favorite benefit at work is the fact that I&#8217;m exempt from library fines! (Although it makes it hard at my local library system, which isn&#8217;t the one I work at. What do you mean I have to return stuff on time?!)</p>
<p>We charge .05/day for kid books, .10 for adult $1 for movies. Kids are capped at $5, adults at $10, movies at purchase price. </p>
<p>You can only renew stuff twice if there isn&#8217;t a hold. Honestly, I&#8217;m ok with this. After working at an academic library where the staff had unlimited renewals? Many, many, many members of staff had books that had been checked out for decades. They&#8217;d have the library order a book that they wanted to own, check it out as soon as it came in and keep renewing it until they retired. </p>
<p>Also, a helpful library hint&#8211; if you can&#8217;t renew because of a hold, but there are several open copies? Wait a day. Most libraries pull hold books every morning before opening. If you wait a day or two, there&#8217;s a good chance the book will have been pulled and trapped for the hold, so then you can renew. If you can&#8217;t wait, call the reference desk of a branch with an open copy and explain the situation. They won&#8217;t override the hold, they&#8217;ll just get their copy and trap the hold, so then you can renew, that way everyone gets what they want!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually put my library books/DVDs/CDs on a little coffeetable near the door to my house so I&#039;ll remember to bring them back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually put my library books/DVDs/CDs on a little coffeetable near the door to my house so I&#8217;ll remember to bring them back.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://blog.mawbooks.com/2009/06/11/talking-library-fines-somebody-please-make-me-feel-better/#comment-42601</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for the library, obviously go every day, and still forget to take books back.  Obsessively checking my account doesn&#039;t help me remember to put the overdue book with my purse to return the next day and working for the library does not exempt me from fines.  Luckily they just dropped the teen fine from .20/day to .05/day.  This has helped me considerably!  Adult material is still .20 and DVDs are 2.00/day, so I try not to check these out too much.  I haven&#039;t had any outrageous fines, luckily, but have probably paid out a lot in little increments over the years.  Funnily enough, I think I&#039;ve had more trouble with fines since I began working for the library than before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for the library, obviously go every day, and still forget to take books back.  Obsessively checking my account doesn&#8217;t help me remember to put the overdue book with my purse to return the next day and working for the library does not exempt me from fines.  Luckily they just dropped the teen fine from .20/day to .05/day.  This has helped me considerably!  Adult material is still .20 and DVDs are 2.00/day, so I try not to check these out too much.  I haven&#8217;t had any outrageous fines, luckily, but have probably paid out a lot in little increments over the years.  Funnily enough, I think I&#8217;ve had more trouble with fines since I began working for the library than before.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle &#124; MsBookish</title>
		<link>http://blog.mawbooks.com/2009/06/11/talking-library-fines-somebody-please-make-me-feel-better/#comment-42489</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle &#124; MsBookish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been up over the $60 range myself - I was so happy when they started taking debit cards! And I have absolutely no excuse. The library is at block away from my house ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been up over the $60 range myself &#8211; I was so happy when they started taking debit cards! And I have absolutely no excuse. The library is at block away from my house &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain!

We have a designated spot for library books - out of the car, into the house, and in the basket in the family room ... not to be removed from that room until they&#039;re on their way back to the library.  It&#039;s hard to enforce, because the kids like to bring the books to their rooms and on car trips, but I tell them they can&#039;t do that with library books.

At age 5 each of my kids got a library card of their own, and was reminded of the overdue fines if a book couldn&#039;t be found when it was time to return it.

That just leaves my books and my 4-yr-old&#039;s on my card, so it&#039;s getting easier for me.  I do enforce that they pay the fine if a book isn&#039;t in the designated spot when I do a sweep to return them.

I have all the library reminders (for kids and me) go to my email so I can pull the books from the basket as needed (they give us 2 days notice on reminders)

Good luck ... this too shall pass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain!</p>
<p>We have a designated spot for library books &#8211; out of the car, into the house, and in the basket in the family room &#8230; not to be removed from that room until they&#8217;re on their way back to the library.  It&#8217;s hard to enforce, because the kids like to bring the books to their rooms and on car trips, but I tell them they can&#8217;t do that with library books.</p>
<p>At age 5 each of my kids got a library card of their own, and was reminded of the overdue fines if a book couldn&#8217;t be found when it was time to return it.</p>
<p>That just leaves my books and my 4-yr-old&#8217;s on my card, so it&#8217;s getting easier for me.  I do enforce that they pay the fine if a book isn&#8217;t in the designated spot when I do a sweep to return them.</p>
<p>I have all the library reminders (for kids and me) go to my email so I can pull the books from the basket as needed (they give us 2 days notice on reminders)</p>
<p>Good luck &#8230; this too shall pass!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a &quot;system&quot; that I suppose isn&#039;t working because of my failure to enforce it.  Library books and movies are supposed to stay in the basket in the front room.  I keep finding them elsewhere.

Your library does have hefty fines.  Our is $.25 a day per item, with a max of $5.  It also usually has a good online holds and renewal system, but it goes down a lot and if you owe more than $3-4 in fines you can&#039;t use it.  Frustrating when you just want to renew the book so you don&#039;t get any more fines.

I wish our library would send reminder e-mails when an item is due!  That would be so cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a &#8220;system&#8221; that I suppose isn&#8217;t working because of my failure to enforce it.  Library books and movies are supposed to stay in the basket in the front room.  I keep finding them elsewhere.</p>
<p>Your library does have hefty fines.  Our is $.25 a day per item, with a max of $5.  It also usually has a good online holds and renewal system, but it goes down a lot and if you owe more than $3-4 in fines you can&#8217;t use it.  Frustrating when you just want to renew the book so you don&#8217;t get any more fines.</p>
<p>I wish our library would send reminder e-mails when an item is due!  That would be so cool.</p>
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