Interview with Paul Harris, Author of The Secret Keeper & a GIVEAWAY
Yesterday I reviewed the book The Secret Keeper by Paul Harris, a new book that takes place during the Sierra Leone civil war as a journalist investigates the murder of his past girlfriend. In my review, I said the book had “a great storyline, believable characters, and set against a volatile background of war, greed, murder, and deceit, it makes for an intriguing read.”
What I found fascinating about The Secret Keeper is that the author Paul Harris is also a journalist who covered the war in Sierra Leone. I wanted to know how much of his personal experience played into the writing of this book and was thrilled to be able to ask Paul some of those questions. Please welcome Paul to the Maw Books Blog . . .
Maw Books: How and why did you become a journalist? Can you briefly share a few highlights from your career?
Paul Harris: I always wanted to be a journalist and I think I have been lucky to have had that ambition from a young age. When I was about 9 years old I started a newspaper at my school (it lasted one edition!). So it was simply a matter of doing student journalism, getting a journalism qualification and then battling to get a job. The reasons why I wanted to be a journalist are a mix. Every journalist (I would hope) wants to change the world a little bit for the better. But every honest journalist should admit that it’s a chance to have an awful lot of fun, see some exotic places and get to see your name in print. My main highlight would be covering the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa. It was a panel set up by archbishop Desmond Tutu to examine apartheid era crimes by all sides. It was a privilege to watch a nation try to heal itself like that, with all the moral compromises and complexities that that involved.
Maw Books: Starting a newspaper at nine? It’s no surprise you became a journalist! You spent a month in Sierra Leone covering the civil war. It is obviously this experience that drove you to write The Secret Keeper. But you’ve also covered many other conflicts across Africa and elsewhere. Why did you choose this story over any of the other stories that you could have told?
Paul Harris: I think Sierra Leone held the most fascination because for me it was the most extreme experience. More so than two months embedded with the military during the invasion of Iraq or other conflicts which I just dipped in and out of. In Sierra Leone I was operating alone, in a strange country amid utter chaos. It was a heady mixture of excitement and fear. It was also the conflict that put a full stop on my African experience. I decided to leave shortly after.
Maw Books: I can only imagine the things you must have seen and heard. Why write a novel in the first place? Is it something that you have always wanted to do or have been interested in? What led you to turn from journalism writing to novel writing?
Paul Harris: I always wrote fiction, especially when I was a child. I fell in love with Tolkien and spent many hours writing my own stories set in fantasy worlds (writing a fantasy book is still a secret ambition of mine). Then, after I had left Africa, I decided to take my desire to write a novel seriously and followed the dictum: write what you know. So I began the process of taking some of my own experiences as a setting and starting to work what sort of themes I wanted to explore.
Maw Books: Was it easy or difficult to switch to a different style of writing for The Secret Keeper from your journalism writing?
Paul Harris: It was very liberating actually. Fiction is an opportunity to play around and say exactly what you want. Journalism has rules to stop that sort of thing.
Maw Books: I imagine being an war correspondent stationed abroad can be very frustrating when faced with the ignorance of others who either have little to no interest in the stories that you are risking your life to bring to them. Do you think you can reach a new demographic with a novel (as opposed to journalism writing), to those who may not be aware of some of the current conflicts around the world?
Paul Harris: Definitely. The best fiction can bring the most obscure parts of the world to people’s attention and reach people that don’t consume too much news or have become disillusioned with it. I imagine that Khaled Hosseini has done more to bring Afghanistan alive for people than a thousand news stories. Perhaps, hopefully, what happens is someone will read the fiction and then be inspired to find out more about the reality.
Maw Books: I must admit that Hosseini spurred my desire to read more books that take place in Afghanistan, which I’m lucky to say I have. What do you hope the reader learns, if anything, after reading The Secret Keeper?
Paul Harris: I think, at heart, it’s a story about moral complexity. That very few things are black and white. Good people do bad things, bad people do good things. Everything is a shade of grey.
Maw Books: What was the personal emotional impact on you from your experience in Sierra Leone? How does covering war stories change you? And how do you suppress this emotion in your journalism writing?
Paul Harris: It was pretty intense. I thought I was fine but after I left (and was incredibly relieved to get out) I noticed that I was behaving in certain strange ways: edgy, short-tempered, constantly nervous. I remember walking through a Nairobi street when a car exhaust backfired several times and it set my heart racing so much I thought I was about to have a panic attack. But I think for most journalists the impact of covering conflicts will be as varied as the person. Some very fine friends make their whole careers out of it. Some of them thrive, others become very damaged. For me, it gave me a great sense of perspective and the preciousness of life and a feeling that war truly is the greatest folly of mankind. As for suppressing the emotion in writing, I think the simple rules of writing journalism will keep a lot of it out. But also a little bit of emotion – and breaking those rules – is generally a good thing. There is no such things as true objectivity, especially about tragedy, and nor should there be.
Maw Books: Was the experience of writing The Secret Keeper cathartic in any way? A way for you to release some of the emotions that you felt while in Sierra Leone or any other war torn country?
Paul Harris: I think it was. It felt good to get it out on the page, probably more than I realized I needed.
Maw Books: After witnessing so much real-life drama how do you recreate that drama in The Secret Keeper? How are real life emotions different than emotions as written on a page?
Paul Harris: What a fascinating question. I think (I hope) that I tried to recreate that drama as accurately as possible and give my characters emotions that would ring true. I think authors should aim to recreate authenticity. Because readers are not fools and will spot a fake. So I guess it is up to the readers to say if I have succeeded or not.
Maw Books: How have the real life people you met in Sierra Leone influenced the characters/personalities in your book?
Paul Harris: A lot, but not all. The romance between Danny and Maria was inspired by an affair that a colleague and a local aid worker were having. Kam, Danny’s driver and fixer, was based entirely on my driver in real life. Ali was inspired by a guy I met on a helicopter trip. I did not even speak to him, but he just looked so… shady and yet totally at home in his environment. I just extrapolated him from there. The scenes in the hotel bar were all taken from real life. That place was a real “Star Wars” bar that everyone went to every night. Covering a conflict like that at leaves gives one a vast amount of exotic source material.
Maw Books: I thought Kam was quite the character! How much (if any) of you is there in Danny? Is there anything specifically that happened to him that is based upon your real life experiences?
Paul Harris: I think inevitably there is a lot there. A friend pointed out that there is very little physical description of Danny in the book and I guess that is because in my mind’s eye he was basically me. There are several specific incidents inspired by real life events: the shooting outside the RUF leader’s house, the trip to Bo and the fire fight up country towards the end of the book. Mining those events for fictional purposes did feel a little surreal at times.
Maw Books: Knowing what your author photo looked like I have to admit that I kept picturing Danny as you. And what fascinating experiences! Was there a particular scene that you knew you had to write about? That never changed from the moment you conceived it?
Paul Harris: Weirdly, the last sentence was pretty much the first sentence that came to my mind. Writing the book felt like a journey to get to that point and though it took lots of turns and twists, I felt I never really lost sight of it.
Maw Books: What surprised you most about your book and/or characters as you were writing? Did anything turn out radically different than you’d originally thought it would?
Paul Harris: This is a tough one. I had an unusual experience writing the character of Danny’s girlfriend, Rachel. I wanted her to be a sympathetic, good person. But at the end of the first draft my editor said she didn’t really care for her at all, saying she came over as negative and complaining. With that in mind I went back and reread those bits of the book with a fresh eye and was astonished to discover she was right. I had written her in print in a way completely different than what I thought I had. So I went back and rewrote her parts to do her more justice.
Maw Books: While I was reading The Secret Keeper I kept visualizing the story as a movie playing out in my head. If The Secret Keeper were a movie, who would you cast as your characters?
Paul Harris: That’s a fun question. A lot of people say it feels very cinematic. Perhaps Penelope Cruz as Maria. As Danny is inspired by some of my own experiences, I think modesty forbids me making any suggestions. I’ll leave it to readers’ imaginations. They are likely to be more honest than mine.
Maw Books: I could totally see Penelope Cruz as Maria. Good choice! Can you briefly share with us what you think the current state of Sierra Leone is and what you think is in it’s future?
Paul Harris: Sierra Leone – I am delighted to say – is doing well. It is still desperately poor and has huge needs, but the war is over and has been for almost a decade now. Progress is slow but with such a history any sort of progress is to be celebrated. The same can be said of much of the rest of the region where equally devastated countries, like Liberia, are also recovering and stable. It is good news in a troubled world.
Maw Books: I was haunted with the blank stares and listless ex-child soldiers as you wrote about them in the book. Maria, works for an orphanage that took in ex-child soldiers in an attempt to rehabilitate them and place them into homes. Will you share with us some of your experiences with child soldiers in Sierra Leone? Is enough being done for them? What, in your opinion, needs to be done?
Paul Harris: My experiences were mostly limited to meeting them at roadblocks and trying to negotiate my way through them. It is incredibly scary and also incredibly sad, to meet such young children, armed with machine guns, drunk and high and dangerous, and yet fundamentally still children who respond to a laugh and a smile. It is a problem that felt almost impossible to solve and I am no expert. But they need all the help and understanding they can get to help them recover from traumatising experiences that we can never imagine and yet not lose sight of the fact that they remain children. Like everything else in Sierra Leone, resources are small and the need is great. But, at the very least, no more child soldiers are being created.
Maw Books: I have a special interest in Sudan. You have spent some time in Sudan. Can you briefly share a little bit about some of the stories that you covered there?
Paul Harris: I spent some time traveling with Christian missionaries who were buying back black African Sudanese who had been captured in slave raids by Arab Sudanese. I know that sounds incredibly medieval but the South of Sudan back in the 90s was just that kind of place. It is a different world. I also covered a lovely story on a sort of ‘Olympics’ that aid groups organized in the area for local kids who had little else to enjoy in tough childhoods defined by the ongoing civil war. I loved south Sudan. People were generous and kind and it really felt like going back in time. My favourite moment was sleeping in a south Sudanese village, deep in the bush and being awoken by terrible screams and shouts. In the middle of a war zone, you could imagine all sorts of horrors. But the next morning we discovered one of the village elders had had too much to drink and his wife had kicked him out of their hut. It was their argument we had heard. As someone who fundamentally believes that every human being is basically the same, it was a good lesson in the universality of human experience!
Maw Books: I’ve read a bit about the slave trade in South Sudan. It’s just so crazy! And now for a few more “lighter” questions. What’s the last book you finished and what’s on your nightstand right now?
Paul Harris: The last book I read was the excellent Columbine by Dave Cullen. I have not got anything on my night stand just yet as I am about to start doing research for a new book and am going to draw up a long non-fiction reading list based around US politics to kick things off.
Maw Books: What is the best writing advice you have ever received and in turn the best writing advice that you could give?
Paul Harris: The best advice I got was write what you know. It was a great help in giving me the focus to write a book after several false starts over the years on less solid ground. My advice would simply be: a writer writes. So many people say they have books in them, but never finish what they start. You have to persevere. To the end. It sounds blindingly obvious, but the main reason most people don’t get published is because they don’t write a book.
Maw Books: That makes perfect sense. If you could have dinner with any five people, dead or alive, who would they be and why?
Paul Harris:
Jesus Christ (just to solve the mystery of who he actually was)
Archbishop Desmond Tutu (the most ‘good’ person I have ever met) Aristophanes (great sense of humour)
JRR Tolkien (he created an entire world inside his head)
Mae West (she would make it a proper party)
Maw Books: Speaking of dinner, a question that I ask of every single author I interview is to share with us a recipe that I will later make and blog about. Do you have a favorite from your world travels that you would care to share with us?
Paul Harris: Food during a lot of my travels has not been that good (two months of military rations in Iraq!). But here is a dish from Cape Town in South Africa, with its origins in the Cape Malay community, people descended from Malaysian slaves brought over by the Dutch in the 17th Century. It is called Bobotie and is a bit (only a bit) like a moussaka.
Link to Bobotie recipe.
Maw Books: Seriously, sounds delicious. I’m going to try to get everything I need for it. So what are you doing right now? Do you have any more books in your future?
Paul Harris: I am just starting a second book. Set against the backdrop of an American presidential campaign. I covered the 2004 and 2008 elections and want to capture some of that amazing excitement and drama. As I said earlier: write what you know.
Maw Books: Anything else you would like to share with the Maw Books readers?
Paul Harris: Just to say thanks for reading and commenting. The experience of doing this sort of thing online is a lot of fun and also blogs like Maw Books are so important these days. For readers and for authors. We’re entering a whole new world together.
Giveaway: I was able to pick up a second copy of The Secret Keeper that I would love to pass on to you. To enter, leave a comment on this post telling me what you found the most interesting from this interview with Paul Harris. If you would like to double your chances of winning, also leave a comment responding to my book review of The Secret Keeper. Giveaway is open world-wide and I’ll pick a winner on May 27th.

Links of interest: The Secret Keeper website. Maw Books review of The Secret Keeper.
Genre: Mystery/thriller.
Publisher: Dutton Adult. April 2nd, 2009
Hardcover, 336 pages. ISBN: 0525951024
The Secret Keeper is available from your independent bookstore, Powell’s, Barnes and Noble and Amazon.
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I’m fascinated to read about a journalist writing fiction.
on May 19th, 2009 at 8:53 amIt is always nice to read a good author just says he fell in love with Tolkien and was inspired to start writing his own stories… there are not many authors out there who openly admit this. Much respect! Thanks for this wonderful Q&A. Loved it.
on May 19th, 2009 at 8:57 amExcellent interview you two!! I loved the Q’s and the A’s. I am reading this right now, (on page 70) and LOVING it. I was first intregued by Sierra Leone in Blood Diamond, and I still can’t get that image out of my head when reading this book. I have always been very interested in child soldiers, as I studied the FARC of Latin America in college for a full term.
I wished your interview wouldn’t end. Thanks for sharing that with your readers.
on May 19th, 2009 at 9:32 amWhat I really liked about the interview was when he told the story of the man getting kicked out of his hut in Sudan because he was drunk. There are so many things about that culture that I cannot imagine. At the same time, we all have that same human drama and conflict. What a great interview! Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us.
on May 19th, 2009 at 9:52 amI loved this interview! The questions you posed were excellent. I, too, did not want it to end. I was impressed by his interest in writing at such a young age, and then his ability to shift from writing news stories to fiction. Great book, great interview!
on May 19th, 2009 at 10:15 amI liked his description of the Star Wars bar. Being a Star Wars fan, I can now perfectly envision that kind of thing.
on May 19th, 2009 at 1:12 pmNatasha and Paul, fascinating interview! I was most moved by the description of the child soldiers.. thank goodness the war is over and no more are being created. Great job on this!!
on May 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pmWhat an extremely interesting interview! I throughly enjoyed it. And looking forward to see if you manage to make the “mousakka”.
Louise
on May 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pmLove the recipes, and the questions about who the authors would like to eat with!
on May 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pmwhat his second book will be about thanks for the giveaway
on May 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pmGreat interview! By the time it’s my turn for the blog tour, I’ll have to think of a totally different way to ask the questions!
on May 19th, 2009 at 5:34 pmI was sad to hear about how war affects young children
on May 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pmWhat an interview Natasha, I loved all the questions you asked. They were very thoughtful.
I’ve read so many books based in Africa and I loved almost all of them. One book I remember based in Sierra Leone was ‘A long way gone’. What a fantastic and heart breaking book.
I always had a fascination for journalists, especially the ones who work in hostile places. They should definitely get the recognition they deserve.
Please do enter me and thanks for the giveaway.
on May 20th, 2009 at 12:08 amThis was a great interview! I enjoyed learning how Paul Harris first decided to become a journalist and the difficulties and adventures that he had in Africa, particularly the conditions in the Sudan.
I’d heard a bit about Sierra Leone mainly through their conflict diamonds – the interest began after watching Blood Diamond, but it’s wonderful to learn more.
Please count me in!
gaby317nyc AT gmail DOT com
on May 20th, 2009 at 12:43 amI think this one of the best interviews that you have done. Paul Harris is one of those people you would love to have dinner with just to hear of his experiences. This is my favourite genres but I have to admit I did not read your review because of the books content. I shy away from the writing of child soldiers just because it is just so awful. But really the only way we are going to learn about such places is to read books like this.
With that in mind please put me in for this book draw.
on May 20th, 2009 at 2:31 amGreat interview. It’s interesting to read the book and then read Paul’s thoughts. I think it really added to the book that he spent time out in Sierra Leone himself. It makes it so much more believable.
What I liked most was learning about something I didn’t have a lot of knowledge on before being one of those people who tries to avoid the news as much as I can.
I look forward to more from Paul in the future!
on May 20th, 2009 at 10:55 amI love that you can write a character and have them come across totally differently from what you intended.
I’ve done that myself, but without an editor I tend to find it on my own years later.
on May 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pmI liked the comment that the best advice he received was to write what you know — very true indeed.
on May 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThanks for the giveaway!
Kimspam66(at)yahoo(dot)com
The food question and response was really interesting. Thanks!
on May 21st, 2009 at 2:16 amI found all the places Paul Harris visited as a journalist interesting. He’s definitely an accomplished journalist.
Please count me in – Thanks!
on May 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pmmegalon22[at]yahoo[dot]com
I found the comments and reflections about the child soldiers of Sierra Leone to be the most interesting.
madamerkf at aol dot com
on May 21st, 2009 at 6:44 pmThis book sounds truly fabulous. I can tell from this interview that it’s filled with great details. I’m very intrigued by the characters in the “Star Wars” bar.
on May 22nd, 2009 at 2:29 amPlease enter me for this giveaway. What I found interesting about the interview was “What five people would you like to have dinner with”. It’s always an interesting question to ask people. Thank you.
on May 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmmakeupgirl21@comcast.net
The interview was great and I really want to read this book.
on May 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 amI found it very interesting how he went from being a journalist to a fiction writer. I also thought it interesting how he started a newspaper at the age of 9.
on May 23rd, 2009 at 5:48 pmPlease enter me!
Your interviews are always so great. I’m catching up from your older posts first so I have already left a post on your review (one entry for me please!) and I always love hearing how authors get to where they are. How they decide to become authors. (another entry please)
I love your giveaways! I promise I will send your book (with some exras for taking so long!) as soon as I move.
on May 24th, 2009 at 11:38 amI’d love to read this.
on May 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmGreat interview! I think that % people dinner choice is great, and even one edition in the school newspaper at the age of 9 is amazing. I would love to read this book. Please count me in.
on May 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmThanks for the interview (and the giveaway). I found very interesting description of some travels and the way those travels “shaped” the author. Add me to the giveaway, please.
on May 25th, 2009 at 1:22 amDidn’t think I would learn about food. A Renaissance man!
on May 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pmOkay, random.org has spoken and the winner of a copy of The Secret Keeper is Louise! Congrats! I’ll be in touch after BEA but you can send me your mailing address in the meantime!
on May 27th, 2009 at 11:11 pmno need to enter me in the give, but I really enjoyed the questions and answers in this interview. Paul seems like a genuine guy with a lot to say, particularly about parts of the world most people are unaware of.
on June 11th, 2009 at 11:27 am